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Tuesday, June 03, 2003
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Mike, I could let it go at an agree to disagree, but I won’t. Consider this thought experiment. Equality of outcome has been magically decreed. One guy, we’ll call him Mike, is a hard working teacher at a city college somewhere in the midwest. His income is relatively low, even though he has five advanced degrees in anthropology, history, paleontology, particle physics and basket weaving. He has spent a great deal of effort to gain this knowledge, because all he has ever wanted to do is teach. Another guy, we’ll call him Steve, is a technical writer in our nation’s capital. Though he has not earned a degree, since he got married and realized he needed a career, has worked very hard to develop one that will provide a decent income for his family. He has no particular attachment to technical writing, though he doesn’t mind it. His interests lie outside his career - money has been the primary driver for career. His income is now substantially above the national average.
These two people have made different choices, because, well, they had the freedom to do so. Now the magical income leveler is voted in, and now everyone has the same income, same medical care, same everything. Mike’s income jumps dramatically. Steve’s is cut in half.
Is it fair because it balances out? Because one person benefitted and one did not? While Mike did not personally come to suburban northern Virginia, and put a gun to Steve’s head to get the extra money, his agent the government did. Mike could have chosen a different career path. A man of his clear ability and intelligence could have devoted himself to a career track that resulted in money. He did not. That is not a reason to steal money from someone who did.
Do not take this to mean that I believe their should be no government administered social safety net, for those who run into truly bad times. But freedom means you make your bed, and then you sleep in it.
Too Goddamn Much Perfidy...
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Buckethead on 06/03/03 at 03:03 PM
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Mike, I was just illustrating that if class were the dominant pattern in our society, it would overwhelm other arrangements. Voting patterns are one way of seeing what a group of people feel are their interests.
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Monday, June 02, 2003
On the FCC thingie |  |
Well, the problem with the FCC is that it is deregulating the top of the market without deregulating the bottom. It is impossible (and I know people who have tried) to get a broadcast license for radio or TV in this country, unless you are already part of a large network. Cable TV provided a loophole, which is now being closed. While I am not against allowing large companies to merge in principle, the flip side is that you must allow new entrants into the field. As older dinosaurs calcify and grow stagnant, new dinosaurs move in. However, if you lock out the bottom of the market, you assure that the current players will stay there forever.
We never truly deregulated broadcast media. That is the problem.
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Buckethead on 06/02/03 at 09:55 PM
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Yeah, but over half of the households in the United States are now part of the “Investor Class.” This is not exactly all the wealth piled up at the top of the pyramid. And before anyone points out the richest 5% blah blah blah, the fact that there is inequity in incomes and wealth is not the issue. Do we want everyone to make 37,000 a year, or whatever the median income is? It is more important that everyone have the equal opportunity to pursue happiness (or wealth) in their own way, to whatever limits their talents allow. Equality of outcome is incompatible with liberty. If we allow everyone liberty, some will do better than others.
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The United States, only two years later, experienced a periodic downturn in the economy, which caused a national leader to get the boot. Deficits in the United States also happened, but were soon corrected when the economy had expanded sufficiently. Nevertheless, the economic boom of the nineties in both the US and the UK is the result of the structural reforms instituted by Reagan and Thatcher in the early eighties.
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Buckethead on 06/02/03 at 08:51 PM
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The United States, only two years later, experienced a periodic downturn in the economy, which caused a national leader to get the boot. Deficits in the United States also happened, but were soon corrected when the economy had expanded sufficiently. Nevertheless, the economic boom of the nineties in both the US and the UK is the result of the structural reforms instituted by Reagan and Thatcher in the early eighties.
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Buckethead wrote that, “Considering the vast expansion of the investor class, ironically one of Marx’ dearest hope - that the proletariat would own the means of production, has kind of happened.”
Even though this was an off-hand remark, I’m still going to comment. As I’ve argued before, the world has changed a great deal since the mid-late nineteenth century. At this point, in the United States, there are very few urban industrial workers involved in manufacturing thanks to globalization, environmental restrictions, the shortsightedness of unions in the 1950s and 1960s, and other factors. Workers, and members of the working class, are now overwhelmingly people involved in the service sector. They are waiters, busboys, pizza deliverers, janitors, auto mechanics, grocery store personnel, etc. They, and educated, therefore technically middle class people, who nonetheless have a low income such as archivists, adjunct professors, and the like, do not have excess capital for investment.
Investors, on the other hand, are overwhelmingly middle and upper income middle and upper class people who, while they work, are involved in white-collar office, financial, business, and other professions. Workers are wage-workers. They don’t have salaries. They have no capital for investment, they are not investors, therefore, the workers, overall, do not kind of own the means of production.
There are and have been manufacturing plants, and some other businesses, that are employee owned, but they are few and far between. They also have a tendency to go under since the white-collar types would sooner buy cheaper goods made in other countries where operating costs are lower due to a lack of minimum wage, fewer, if any, environmental restrictions, etc. Hence, globalization rears its ugly head to defeat employee owned businesses in the United States.
But back to the aforementioned workers in the first paragraph, janitors do not own the businesses they clean. Busboys and waitstaff do not own the restaurant. Auto mechanics do not usually own the shop, but are rather employed by it. Therefore, it is not fair to say that the workers even kind of own the means of production. The vast majority of wealth and the means of production that exist, in whatever form, are largely concentrated at the top of the pyramid. Besides, Marx prophesied total worker ownership of the means of production, and society is very far away from that.
Anti-Irish-Americanism in the Ivory Tower
In case anyone is interested, I’ll explain the presence of anti-Irish-Americanism within American ethnic history. Since the 1960s, with the birth of new social history, American ethnic history became a heavily studied field. As such, Irish Americans have historically been the whipping boy of American ethnic history.
For example, Oscar Handlin in Boston’s Immigrants painted the Irish as racist, mean-spirited, and money-grubbing. Hasia Diner in Erin’s Daughters in America painted Irish immigrant women as insane, perpetually drunk, and morally bankrupt. Irish men were painted as drunken wife beaters who often abandoned their families. Noel Ignatiev in How the Irish Became White, argued that Irish-Americans, get this, entirely and consciously made an effort to become white by hating and mistreating African-Americans. The notion of an entire ethnic group consciously and totally making an effort to do anything is absurd. Did all the Irish in America get together at a caucus and unanimously vote to become white? I’d like to see the minutes of that meeting. The whole whiteness concept is equally absurd, but perhaps that’s a post for another time.
Other historians not even dealing with Irish-American topics nevertheless can’t resist taking a swipe at American ethnic history’s favorite target. Deborah Dash Moore, in To the Golden Cities, chronicling primarily Jewish migration from New York to Miami Beach and from Chicago to California, quoted several people who felt they just had to get out of Boston because of Father Coughlin. He lived in Detroit. How was he a threat in Boston? According to Moore, each and every Irish-American in Boston was a raging anti-Semite who worshipped Father Coughlin. Robert Orsi, in The Madonna of 115th Street, claimed that Irish Americans dominated the Catholic Church and virulently hated Italian Americans for being such bad Catholics. Hence, Irish Americans are evil. By the way, Irish Americans were always virulently conservative in their political views according to many ethnic historians, who argue that conservatism makes them evil. I’m sure Buckethead will enjoy that. But, these historians say, you’ll never find, say, a socialist or even an MADL Irish American. They’re like Santa Claus.
But, Mike, you might ask, why aren’t the WASPs hated and reviled by American ethnic historians? Simple. When the parents or grandparents of many historians arrived in the United States, they never saw any WASPs. The Irish, however, as previous arrivals, occupied many foreman and floor management positions in industry, and therefore created closer quarters and opportunities for conflict. Many Irish-Americans not of the middle class were also in very close quarters with the “new immigrants” of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries.
But there’s something deeper here. New social historians have glorified and lauded the actions of reformist WASPs, such as Jane Adams, while failing to recognize that those reformists were attempting to forcibly assimilate their grandparents. But the new social historians still just can’t get enough of those temperance/abstinence advocating, evangelizing, criticizing progressives. No, no. The progressives were great. Irish Americans, according to the aforementioned and other historians, were more evil than Satan himself.
Is all this criticism fair? No. Particularly because the strokes are so broad. Of course there are Irish Americans who are racist. But what American ethnic group is utterly devoid of racism right down to every member? Are other groups entirely devoid of anti-Semitism? My mother used to tell me there’s good and bad in all kinds. Apparently, other American ethnic historians weren’t paying attention when their mother told them that.
Too Goddamn Much Perfidy...
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Mike on 06/02/03 at 06:45 AM
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Friday, May 30, 2003
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Johno, $4.50 x 280,000,000 = 1.26 billion dollars. That is a lot. The thing is, when you leave the money in the pockets of the people that earned it, instead of giving it to Ted Kennedy, they will use it for many different things. Some will buy beer and pizza. Some will collect stamps. Some will go out for cheap hookers. Others will save it, and invest it. Still other people will take the money that was invested, and give it to some yahoo with a too-clever idea for vacuum-powered hair cutting devices. That guy will hire people to manufacture and sell it. If some money is left over from beer and pizza, stamps or hookers, they will buy it. The economy has just grown. There is more wealth in the system. The new company will pay taxes. So will the formerly unemployed welfare mothers making the doohickeys, and the sleazeballs hawking them on infomercials at three in the morning. So revenue goes up. And as long as we maintain a sound fiscal policy, a low rate of inflation will be the result. This is a good thing. If some people aren’t as rich as the new Vacuum Hair Cutter magnate, that’s because they didn’t go out and found their own company, which anybody with sufficient gumption can do. It’s all about liberty.
This kind of thinking is generally associated with the Chicago school - Hayek, Friedman, and that crowd. Historically, when taxes go down, revenue and the economy go up. Post WWII, post Kennedy, Reagan. When taxes went up in the sixties, by the seventies, the economy was a wreck. (Of course it is more complicated than that. But measures that limit the economy generally go hand in hand with higher taxes. So it evens out.)
And the real problem with deficit spending is not the military - which is a legitimate function of government constitutionally, but entitlement programs that inexorably spiral upwards in cost. There is no conceivable tax increase that would pay for what’s going to happen to Social Security and Medicare. If the economy grows fast enough, we’ll have more money for warm fuzzy programs, and for things that kill little brown people. Liberals and Conservatives will live together. Mass hysteria.
(Considering the vast expansion of the investor class, ironically one of Marx’ dearest hope - that the proletariat would own the means of production, has kind of happened.)
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Buckethead on 05/30/03 at 08:39 PM
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To go a little further on the tax issue, here it is:
Axiom A: The current tax code is a kafkian horror.
Axiom Two: People should be treated equally and fairly under the law.
Axiom III: a taxation scheme should have only two objects, to provide reasonable revenue for government functions, and not to impede the functioning of the economy or for social engineering.
Axiom N: a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.
The current tax system runs to seventeen thousand pages of regulations. It is, literally, impossible for anyone to understand it. With even a moderately complex financial situation, there is no way to be assured that you are in compliance with the law. Every year, journalists will create a fictional family of four, with a reasonable spread of investments and assets, and earning something in the comfortable middle of the income spectrum. They will send this hypothetical tax picture to several IRS functionaries, tax accountants, and HR Block type tax preparers. No return will match any of the others. Better to spend your time figuring how many conflicted, compulsive centrists can agonize on the head of a pin.
On general principle, the current scheme should be completely scrapped. Vague and conflicting regulations make enforcement arbitrary and predatory. When you speak of fear of the government, most people don’t think Big Brother, they think the IRS. There is absolutely no need for a tax system this Byzantine, this elephantine, this cruel; especially in a republic with pretensions to liberty and justice. And beyond the costs of shoveling an average of a third of our income onto the IRS fire, there is the cost of preparing the tax returns themselves. Millions of man hours for the general public, billions spent by businesses and individuals to tax accountants and tax preparers that could be spent more profitably elsewhere. Further, there is the uncalculated effect of tax law on how businesses change practices to avoid punitive tax liabilities, like delaying replacement of aging capital equipment (a factor in the industrial decline in the Midwest), avoiding investment, delaying capitalization and a hundred other things to obscure for me to comprehend.
But what to replace it with? Conceivably, we could replace the current nightmare with something simpler that worked in largely the same way – tax brackets, deductions, credits – but easier to cope with. But if we are going to go to the effort to replace it, it ought to be something better.
I feel that the current tax system makes a mockery of our commitment to justice and equality before the law. If it is illegal to discriminate against someone for reasons of creed, color or gender, why is it kosher that a one set of tax laws applies to Mike, completely different set of laws applies to Mr. and Mrs. Two-Cents, and yet a third and even harsher set of laws applies to the Buckethead clan? If Mike were white, and Johnny Hispanic and me black, legions of the unwashed would rise up in protest. Yet, there is not a murmur of discontent when it is shown that these three have different incomes.
We should always be treated the same before the law. If I kill someone, the same law should apply to me as when Johno kills someone. Even if I did because they deserved it and Johno kills merely because they have bad taste in music. Similarly, the same tax laws should apply to everyone, even if one of us makes more money than the other. This is the primary moral argument for a flat tax.
If we assume that the current level of revenue is adequate for government needs (sharp internal wrenching pain) we could structure a new tax system that would generate that much money. One of the reasons that our tax system is so complicated is that all the many special interests, over decades, slowly weaved a web of exemptions, shelters, credits and what-have-you into the tax code. Most of these complications have no positive effect on the economy as a whole, and many are probably very negative. One way to eliminate unfairness is to completely eliminate all the complications. If every person, and every corporation, paid 10% of income to the government everyone would be on the same level. No industry would have special sanctions, or considerations. It would limit the government’s meddling in the economy. (Tax law is a great sub rosa way to meddle, because it is less obvious.)
The thing is, if I pay 10%, and Mike pays 10%, that’s fair – even though I will pay more in absolute terms. If it’s that simple, I can compute my tax return in seconds. Even corporations would have a simpler time of it. In the wake of the fall of the Soviet Union, the Russian Federation had high taxes. But almost no revenue, because the government was largely incapable of collecting it. When they switched to a flat tax, their revenue skyrocketed. One, because the lower tax rate was fair enough that many who had not paid taxes now paid them, and two, because it stimulated the economy. And if I know every corporation and rich person is paying ten percent, I’m much less likely to think that the fat cats are getting away with murder, because there would be no loopholes or tax shelters.
While I said earlier that the government shouldn’t use the tax system to meddle with the economy, or use it for social engineering, that is only generally true. While staying within the flat tax format – so that the same laws apply to everyone, we can fudge it a bit to have beneficent effects. For example, a certain standard set of deductions would apply to everyone’s income. A personal deduction, child deductions, mortgage interest, marriage deduction are all good candidates. These deductions would be set amounts, so the effect on someone with a low income would be proportionally much larger than for someone with a large income. You could finagle these deductions so that someone or a family at the poverty level would pay no tax. Then, as income increases, taxes would increase. By the time income got to a couple hundred thousand, it would look more and more like 10% as the deductions became a smaller and smaller proportion of the total income. This would help the poor, encourage marriage and children – but the same law would still apply to everyone. A similar situation could be imagined for businesses.
A flat tax of 15 to 17 percent would probably generate about the same revenue as the current system. And the rich would pay more taxes than they do now (though Democrats would still claim that it’s a tax cut for the rich.) But everyone would have the same, understandable law.
Too Goddamn Much Perfidy...
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Buckethead on 05/30/03 at 07:30 PM
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Johno, I agree that the sending rebate checks is fairly ridiculous. But probably not for the same reason. While a rebate check sent to every tax payer might provide a transitory boost to the economy, it is at best a short term solution. The way to effect the economy with tax cuts is to, well, cut taxes. When people know that their taxes are lower, then they will change their behavior in a way that could effect the economy. This applies to regular income taxes, which might affect consumer confidence, consumer spending, housing starts and the like. Lowering, permanently, dividend taxes and capital gains taxes would increase investment and capital development. It has been shown that lowering taxes increases revenue - because the larger economy that is spurred by lower taxes yields more money in absolute terms, even though percentage of the government’s take of the total economy is smaller. These rebates will not have this effect, because people - individuals and businesses - have no confidence that taxes will remain low. The economic picture is indeed muddled. Lowering tax rates would be a solid thing that people could count on.
While even full production from the Iraqi oil fields would remain a relatively small part of the total oil production (even the Saudi’s immense reserves are only a quarter of total proven reserves) the effect of that production would be to drive down oil prices. And oil prices are one of the key factors in the world economy, because in some way or other, almost every business and industry is affected by oil prices. Shipping, energy, heating, plastics - the costs of all of these are all directly dependent on oil. Every other industry uses these services. When oil prices went up by 50%, it had the effect of a tax increase, because it increased the cost of doing business, or the cost of living. When they go down, it will act like a tax cut. And it won’t effect the government’s budget.
As the effects of this percolate through the economy, eventually the job market will catch up with the growing economy. Jobless rates are always a trailing indicator. If the economy is already recovering, great. The lowered oil prices will be a shot in the arm, revving up the recovery.
Too Goddamn Much Perfidy...
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Buckethead on 05/30/03 at 06:35 PM
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Thursday, May 29, 2003
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Buckethead, I think you may be mischaracterizing matters somewhat. Many people (who are not all Democrats) are rather cynically expecting the economy to tank once again, which would result in a very welcome Presidential pie-in-face moment. While not devoid of schadenfreude, it’s a long way from hoping the economy stays torpid. I’d LOVE the economy to improve, but if it doesn’t, I’ll find my silver lining somehow.
Funny thing is, the experts say the economy has recovered. The Wall Street Journal ran an article today (no link...subscription only) on the muddled signals the economy is sending. Some economists point to the slow but definite expansion of production, productivity, consumer spending, and GDP as a sign that the economy has entered a healthy phase. But others point to the continued downturn in the job market (the Journal cites 525,000 nonfarm jobs disappearing in the last three months) as a sign that we’re instead in a difficult transitional stage*. Even though productivity is rising, corporations are using the higher productivity rates as an excuse to cut jobs and thereby reduce operating budgets-- not the behavior of corporations in the midst of a growth cycle. As a consequence, regardless of the state of the economy, times remain hard for those workers who either aren’t working or who are just getting by. Raises don’t happen, wages don’t rise, savings don’t accumulate, and people don’t feel secure.
Am I speaking partially autobiographically? Um… perhaps. I can definitely tell you that in Massachusetts, the worst-hit state in the recent recession, times are still bad for everyone. Although the economy as a whole may still be healthy, budgets at the places my friends work-- libraries, higher ed, museums, nonprofits, entertainment-- are still cut beyond tolerance, and professional jobs are just not appearing in any field except nursing. When they do appear, a scrum develops as two hundred people compete for the same one opening. I could go tomorrow and get a gig at Dunkin Donuts, but I know some seasoned professionals who have been out of steady work for more than a year while still looking, all in an economy which the signs say is recovering.
What I’m getting at is, even if Iraqi oil surges into the world market in two weeks, that won’t have much of an effect on the job market as long as corporations don’t feel like they should expand their payrolls. Also, Iraq has just one slice of the world oil-producing capacity, and unlike you I’m not confident it will come anywhere near full capacity soon.
And the tax cut? While I’m overjoyed to have an extra three damn dollars in my paycheck each pay period, I’d rather see the money go toward the unfunded education mandates the President has handed down. Or the insultingly underfunded AIDS initative he heralded back in January. Or perhaps to train and retain the airport security screeners who are being laid off. This is the SECOND time this President has written checks to Americans, and it’s starting to come across like a parent who doesn’t know any way besides money to keep the kids quiet.
*Source: Wall Street Journal, May 29, 2003. A1, A14
Too Goddamn Much Perfidy...
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Johno on 05/29/03 at 08:26 PM
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Tuesday, May 20, 2003
Cutting Taxes, Snickety-Snick |  |
Folks, even Warren Buffett thinks the tax cut is a bad idea. Warren Buffett!! To wit:
Overall, it’s hard to conceive of anything sillier than the schedule the Senate has laid out. Indeed, the first President Bush had a name for such activities: “voodoo economics.” The manipulation of enactment and sunset dates of tax changes is Enron-style accounting, and a Congress that has recently demanded honest corporate numbers should now look hard at its own practices.
Proponents of cutting tax rates on dividends argue that the move will stimulate the economy. A large amount of stimulus, of course, should already be on the way from the huge and growing deficit the government is now running. I have no strong views on whether more action on this front is warranted. But if it is, don’t cut the taxes of people with huge portfolios of stocks held directly. (Small investors owning stock held through 401(k)s are already tax-favored.) Instead, give reductions to those who both need and will spend the money gained. Enact a Social Security tax “holiday” or give a flat-sum rebate to people with low incomes. Putting $1,000 in the pockets of 310,000 families with urgent needs is going to provide far more stimulus to the economy than putting the same $310 million in my pockets.
When you listen to tax-cut rhetoric, remember that giving one class of taxpayer a “break” requires—now or down the line—that an equivalent burden be imposed on other parties. In other words, if I get a break, someone else pays. Government can’t deliver a free lunch to the country as a whole. It can, however, determine who pays for lunch. And last week the Senate handed the bill to the wrong party.
Zing!
Y’ know? Bush The Younger’s presidency will in retrospect be defined for a few main issues. That’s usually a good thing, unless you are Jimmy “Stagflation” Carter or Bill “Itchy-Pants” Clinton. In the sense that he sticks to his main themes of war and taxes, Bush has an astoundingly coherent and straightforward plan for the nation. They are, in fact, very important issues that deserve attention. However, overall coherence does not imply internal consistency.
Just insisting that “this tax cut is for the good of all” over and over won’t make it so, if at the end of the day it’s going to benefit the country-club set while leaving Joe Sixpack watching Judge Judy because the day-labor center was full up again. After all, I’m not yet Wolverine, no matter how many “snickety-snick” sounds I make while dancing around the apartment. Platitudes may sound nice, but only results matter. And what happened to his “Education Plan?” Unfunded mandates are even worse than empty platitudes.
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Tuesday, May 13, 2003
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The Treasury Department has unveiled the design for the new $US 20. What a piece of poo! Not that I have any specific problems with a re-design, but I’m gonna go out on a limb here and assert that PEACH and LEMONY-FRESH YELLOW are two colors that should never be associated with the United States of America. Green, yes. Silver, oh sure oh sure. Bloody-red? Why not, hey! But peach? Peach? Peach is for handbags, not what goes in ‘em.
Have a problem with the gendered speech inherent in the above? You can bite my shiny metal ass.
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Johno on 05/13/03 at 04:43 PM
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Friday, May 02, 2003
How To Get Rich… Slowly |  |
Clayton Cramer is blogging a good series on how to manage your personal finances, based on his experiences. Now, I’m no financial wizard. My net worth right now is equivalent to a Zagnut and a cup of diner coffee. But, since I now am also responsible for Goodwife Two-Cents, and hope someday to be responsible for Increase Two-Cents, Mercy Two-Cents, and Fight-the-good-fight-of-faith Two-Cents, I need to get my Little Commonweal in order. As far as I can see, Cramer’s series is full of practical advice and simple explanations of concepts that might help me do that. Good for me, as I have the internet attention span of a five-year-old.
The series parts are here, here, here, and in four more places that are linked from part III, so I shan’t belabor the point. Besides, it’s Friday afternoon and I need to get home so I can go to Target in our shitheap Pontiac. There’s a section in the Cramer guide called “Cars: The Monkey On Your Budget Back.” It really spoke to me, like the Beatles spoke to Charles Manson. Except not as murdery.
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Monday, March 24, 2003
Must…resist posting…*gasp*…about…empire! |  |
John McCain is just great. In this op-ed from last Friday’s Washington Post, McCain touches on “empire.”
Well of course he does.
Please read the whole thing-- it’s a remarkable essay about why he believes America is great and doing the right thing. Here’s the money quotes for us:
Critics who deem war against Saddam Hussein’s regime to be an unprecedented departure from our proud tradition of American internationalism disregard our history of meeting threats to our security with both military force and a commitment to revolutionary democratic change.
The union of our interests and values requires us to stay true to that commitment in Iraq. Liberating Iraqis from Hussein’s tyranny is necessary but not sufficient. The true test of our power, and much of the moral basis for its use, lies not simply in ending dictatorship but in helping the Iraqi people construct a democratic future. . . .
This is what sets us apart from empire builders: the use of our power for moral purpose. We seek to liberate, not subjugate.
Fair enough, and beautifully said. It’s about the use of our power for moral purpose.
But it’s also about the oil (but not in the way many people think).
Let the flames begin!!
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